i was raised in the '60s -- >> in mississippi. >> not only that, i'm a student of my history. i have said this many times, it's not a part of who i am to use that word. i understand why other people do. it's impossible for me to do it, because i know the history, and i know that for so many of my relatives, whom i don't know, who i don't know by name, people who i am connected to, my ancestors, that was the last word they heard as they were being strung up by a tree. that was the last sense of degradation that they experienced as some harm was caused to them. i just -- it's just not a part of the fabric of who i am. so out of respect to those who have come before, and the price that they paid to rid themselves of being relegated to that word, i just don't use it. >> we had a fascinating conversation. more on my interview with oprah winfrey and forest whittaker tomorrow on "360." lee daniels "the butler" opens tomorrow. just ahead, the custody battle over veronica. it may be nearing a breaking point. the adoptive parents are in oklahoma to try to bring their daughter home. the